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		<title>By: Mozaik</title>
		<link>http://cookandeat.com/2009/04/21/the-chicken-and-the-egg/comment-page-1/#comment-58597</link>
		<dc:creator>Mozaik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 03:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s resolve the salt issue. Buy regular salt that you can afford and while walking back home with your groceries pick some rosemary leaves in the street. There is a lot of ignored and neglected rosemary in Seattle so it shouldn&#039;t be an issue. If you are concerned of the liberate picking of the herb, you might politely ask a neighbor if you could pick a little bunch if they are stingy then ask for few sprigs which is plenty to flavor salt and even oils.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s resolve the salt issue. Buy regular salt that you can afford and while walking back home with your groceries pick some rosemary leaves in the street. There is a lot of ignored and neglected rosemary in Seattle so it shouldn&#8217;t be an issue. If you are concerned of the liberate picking of the herb, you might politely ask a neighbor if you could pick a little bunch if they are stingy then ask for few sprigs which is plenty to flavor salt and even oils.</p>
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		<title>By: Murasaki Shikibu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Murasaki Shikibu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me first say that I like what is being done in this blog because the author is resourceful and tries to make the best of what he can purchase on the restricted budget.

We are currently on 400 euros/month which comes to about 13 euros/day and it&#039;s for two people.  It&#039;s pretty much 6.50 euros/day per person.  Things like shampoo, dental floss, toothpaste, soap, etc. come out of this budget too.  It really depends on where you live how restricted this budget will make things for you.  It would be impossible to eat like we do in Spain if we lived in Japan on this same budget.  

We buy extra virgin olive oil in 5 liter containers for about 15 euros and bake our own bread, make our own pizza crust, flour tortillas, tomato sauce, etc. all from scratch.

We look for vegetables that are in season and will buy things like artichokes going for 1 euro/3 kg or oranges for 1 euro/2 kg.  If you make a huge vat of tomato sauce - it can really go a long way and it&#039;s much cheaper than ready made tomato sauce and will taste much better.  I made my own starter so all we need to buy to bake bread is flour and a little honey and salt.  The starter gets fed whole wheat flour, but we bake bread with AP flour.  Natural sea salt is luckily dirt cheap in Spain and you can buy 1 kg for something like 50 cents.  Herbs?  We try to buy potted plants for 1 euro each and keep them alive for as long as we can.  We use lots of spices and it&#039;s painful when we have to restock. 

Sometimes there are certain fresh foods that are cheap in one area that aren&#039;t in others.  I think it&#039;s important to know what these are.  Radishes for example cost 4 times more in Spain than in Germany.  Ice cream costs 2-3 times as much in Spain than in Germany. 

We don&#039;t buy organic vegetables because we can&#039;t afford to.  We do not buy steak very often (twice a year?) because it messes-up our restricted food budget.  It&#039;s basically impossible to eat out on 6.50 euros/day.  I will also try to walk somewhere instead of taking the train if I can to save a few euros. 

That said I can&#039;t know what it&#039;s like for people on food stamps because I do have some savings and I know I can fall back on this should an emergency come-up.  That said I&#039;m not eligible for welfare in any social system so if my savings ran out I would not be eligible even for food stamps.  That&#039;s why I&#039;m on this self-imposed budget. 

Sorry - I really wrote way too much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me first say that I like what is being done in this blog because the author is resourceful and tries to make the best of what he can purchase on the restricted budget.</p>
<p>We are currently on 400 euros/month which comes to about 13 euros/day and it&#8217;s for two people.  It&#8217;s pretty much 6.50 euros/day per person.  Things like shampoo, dental floss, toothpaste, soap, etc. come out of this budget too.  It really depends on where you live how restricted this budget will make things for you.  It would be impossible to eat like we do in Spain if we lived in Japan on this same budget.  </p>
<p>We buy extra virgin olive oil in 5 liter containers for about 15 euros and bake our own bread, make our own pizza crust, flour tortillas, tomato sauce, etc. all from scratch.</p>
<p>We look for vegetables that are in season and will buy things like artichokes going for 1 euro/3 kg or oranges for 1 euro/2 kg.  If you make a huge vat of tomato sauce &#8211; it can really go a long way and it&#8217;s much cheaper than ready made tomato sauce and will taste much better.  I made my own starter so all we need to buy to bake bread is flour and a little honey and salt.  The starter gets fed whole wheat flour, but we bake bread with AP flour.  Natural sea salt is luckily dirt cheap in Spain and you can buy 1 kg for something like 50 cents.  Herbs?  We try to buy potted plants for 1 euro each and keep them alive for as long as we can.  We use lots of spices and it&#8217;s painful when we have to restock. </p>
<p>Sometimes there are certain fresh foods that are cheap in one area that aren&#8217;t in others.  I think it&#8217;s important to know what these are.  Radishes for example cost 4 times more in Spain than in Germany.  Ice cream costs 2-3 times as much in Spain than in Germany. </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t buy organic vegetables because we can&#8217;t afford to.  We do not buy steak very often (twice a year?) because it messes-up our restricted food budget.  It&#8217;s basically impossible to eat out on 6.50 euros/day.  I will also try to walk somewhere instead of taking the train if I can to save a few euros. </p>
<p>That said I can&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s like for people on food stamps because I do have some savings and I know I can fall back on this should an emergency come-up.  That said I&#8217;m not eligible for welfare in any social system so if my savings ran out I would not be eligible even for food stamps.  That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m on this self-imposed budget. </p>
<p>Sorry &#8211; I really wrote way too much!</p>
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		<title>By: Gabriella</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gabriella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks great!</description>
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		<title>By: LizCrain</title>
		<link>http://cookandeat.com/2009/04/21/the-chicken-and-the-egg/comment-page-1/#comment-58378</link>
		<dc:creator>LizCrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 00:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s still cook enough to roast a chicken! I guess that&#039;s the sunny side of all the grey days in the Pacific Northwest lately. I think I&#039;m going to make some sorrel pesto this weekend. That would go really well with roasted chicken. Thanks for the lovely post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s still cook enough to roast a chicken! I guess that&#8217;s the sunny side of all the grey days in the Pacific Northwest lately. I think I&#8217;m going to make some sorrel pesto this weekend. That would go really well with roasted chicken. Thanks for the lovely post.</p>
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		<title>By: L</title>
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		<dc:creator>L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eliza - wow, $3 per day is really a challenge, especially when you are on a restricted diet. Bulk foods can be particularly hard if you have severe allergies, since you can&#039;t guarantee that the bins haven&#039;t been contaminated (wheat is particularly bad for that I understand). 

How great for you that you&#039;ve managed to do that, and keep up with it! I know I won&#039;t be sticking to $7 per day forever... but I do think that this challenge has inspired me to reduce my food costs overall which should enable me to donate more to others who really need it. 

Matt - I can&#039;t believe I haven&#039;t been to PFI yet. What am I waiting for???? 

Lauren - Yes, although I think that food banks really prefer to get things like canned soup or other cook and eat items. But, maybe by providing those things through the food banks, that can free up some of the food stamps for things like other pantry items. 

Thanks Jak! 

Tea - yeah, I thought so too. But, then I found no shortage of meat, free-range even, at reasonable prices. It&#039;s no Skagit Valley, but I&#039;m glad there are some good, budget-conscious choices out there.

KT - yes... my experience with those &quot;coupons&quot; are that they are usually for things I wouldn&#039;t normally buy... so they aren&#039;t really saving me any money. I understand the appeal though! 

Thanks all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eliza &#8211; wow, $3 per day is really a challenge, especially when you are on a restricted diet. Bulk foods can be particularly hard if you have severe allergies, since you can&#8217;t guarantee that the bins haven&#8217;t been contaminated (wheat is particularly bad for that I understand). </p>
<p>How great for you that you&#8217;ve managed to do that, and keep up with it! I know I won&#8217;t be sticking to $7 per day forever&#8230; but I do think that this challenge has inspired me to reduce my food costs overall which should enable me to donate more to others who really need it. </p>
<p>Matt &#8211; I can&#8217;t believe I haven&#8217;t been to PFI yet. What am I waiting for???? </p>
<p>Lauren &#8211; Yes, although I think that food banks really prefer to get things like canned soup or other cook and eat items. But, maybe by providing those things through the food banks, that can free up some of the food stamps for things like other pantry items. </p>
<p>Thanks Jak! </p>
<p>Tea &#8211; yeah, I thought so too. But, then I found no shortage of meat, free-range even, at reasonable prices. It&#8217;s no Skagit Valley, but I&#8217;m glad there are some good, budget-conscious choices out there.</p>
<p>KT &#8211; yes&#8230; my experience with those &#8220;coupons&#8221; are that they are usually for things I wouldn&#8217;t normally buy&#8230; so they aren&#8217;t really saving me any money. I understand the appeal though! </p>
<p>Thanks all!</p>
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		<title>By: elizabeyta</title>
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		<dc:creator>elizabeyta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have found this challenge very interesting.  One of the reasons why is that I came across it two years ago at $3.00 a day for a single person.  I asked myself and my husband how would we eat on $3 a day.  At the time, we had a gluten and soy (strong enough that eating animals fed soy was causing reaction) allergy in the house and our food budget reflected trying to deal with that ($1200 a month for two).

I came across an article written by a man who had done the challenge.  He was a Friend and chose to live a simple life.  Choosing organic vegetables and fruit, bulk grains and spices, and very little dairy, he was able to feed himself and server his co-workers lunch on $21 for a week.

I chose to take the challenge but making it $50 for a week&#039;s worth of groceries for two due to the allergies.  That was two years ago and it is still our current budget.  It reminds me everyday what other people may be facing.  I have skills in the kitchen that allow me to make a creative varied menu.  Without those skills, it is difficult to eat for that little.

Lauren, I appreciate what you are doing here.  It shows that you can eat well for very little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have found this challenge very interesting.  One of the reasons why is that I came across it two years ago at $3.00 a day for a single person.  I asked myself and my husband how would we eat on $3 a day.  At the time, we had a gluten and soy (strong enough that eating animals fed soy was causing reaction) allergy in the house and our food budget reflected trying to deal with that ($1200 a month for two).</p>
<p>I came across an article written by a man who had done the challenge.  He was a Friend and chose to live a simple life.  Choosing organic vegetables and fruit, bulk grains and spices, and very little dairy, he was able to feed himself and server his co-workers lunch on $21 for a week.</p>
<p>I chose to take the challenge but making it $50 for a week&#8217;s worth of groceries for two due to the allergies.  That was two years ago and it is still our current budget.  It reminds me everyday what other people may be facing.  I have skills in the kitchen that allow me to make a creative varied menu.  Without those skills, it is difficult to eat for that little.</p>
<p>Lauren, I appreciate what you are doing here.  It shows that you can eat well for very little.</p>
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		<title>By: matt wright</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 17:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rocking stuff. Loving the chicken, polenta and parsnips. I can never get enough roasted root veg with chicken. Great photos of the dish - very elegant and clean.

It is really good to see someone that has a true love for cooking attempting something like this. If anything you are certainly showing that it is possible to eat very well, with a creative and diverse menu and a pretty low amount of cash. Love the little touches like the herb salt, which really costs almost nothing, but adds a good sum of flavor.

I saw a little while ago that Big Johns PFI has whole dried hibiscus flowers, which I have actually never seen - most of what I see is the shredded petals. Hibiscus is rapidly becoming one of my favorite little &quot;spices&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rocking stuff. Loving the chicken, polenta and parsnips. I can never get enough roasted root veg with chicken. Great photos of the dish &#8211; very elegant and clean.</p>
<p>It is really good to see someone that has a true love for cooking attempting something like this. If anything you are certainly showing that it is possible to eat very well, with a creative and diverse menu and a pretty low amount of cash. Love the little touches like the herb salt, which really costs almost nothing, but adds a good sum of flavor.</p>
<p>I saw a little while ago that Big Johns PFI has whole dried hibiscus flowers, which I have actually never seen &#8211; most of what I see is the shredded petals. Hibiscus is rapidly becoming one of my favorite little &#8220;spices&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that this challenge is a great way to get us all to think about how difficult it is to eat on a tight budget. Tommy&#039;s post was interesting to me as my husband and I have discussed the very problem of someone not being able to stock a pantry due to the upfront costs. As I&#039;m typing this - it makes me realize that perhaps the donations I give to the food banks should include more pantry items as opposed to the cook and eat items I tend to include. Good job all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that this challenge is a great way to get us all to think about how difficult it is to eat on a tight budget. Tommy&#8217;s post was interesting to me as my husband and I have discussed the very problem of someone not being able to stock a pantry due to the upfront costs. As I&#8217;m typing this &#8211; it makes me realize that perhaps the donations I give to the food banks should include more pantry items as opposed to the cook and eat items I tend to include. Good job all!</p>
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		<title>By: jak</title>
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		<dc:creator>jak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 15:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>L- These are thoughtful and creative ways to have some delicious meals in an economical way... the hibiscus tea/punch looks and sounds amazing.  And as always, your photos sparkle.  Thanks for posting your ideas and creations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L- These are thoughtful and creative ways to have some delicious meals in an economical way&#8230; the hibiscus tea/punch looks and sounds amazing.  And as always, your photos sparkle.  Thanks for posting your ideas and creations.</p>
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		<title>By: Yuri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yuri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 04:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who works for United Way of King County and helped plan part of Hunger Action Week, I have a slightly different take on what the Hunger Challenge is about.

The whole reason we&#039;re doing this is to raise awareness around the cause of hunger in King County (though, in times like these, you can replace &quot;King County&quot; with your own town/county/state).  We wanted to bring it to the forefront of people&#039;s minds and get them talking about the difficulties that come with living on a tight budget and how we can change that as a community.

It&#039;s impossible to say that, after these five days, you&#039;ll know what it&#039;s like to live in poverty or on food stamps.  Instead, we&#039;re trying to get people to empathize.  What kind of lifestyle changes did you have to make on such a tight budget?  Were you no longer able to get coffee?  Could you not catch dinner with friends?  

Obviously, food bloggers and the like have the advantage of time and skill in order to prepare great meals on the $7/day.  We wanted them to have fun and be creative about it.

As long as the end result is people thinking about hunger, recognizing how much of a problem it is, we are happy with that.

It seems like Lara is doing that.  Also, she&#039;s making this challenge-taker very hungry! (I ate pasta 2 nights in a row.. I can&#039;t cook, lol)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who works for United Way of King County and helped plan part of Hunger Action Week, I have a slightly different take on what the Hunger Challenge is about.</p>
<p>The whole reason we&#8217;re doing this is to raise awareness around the cause of hunger in King County (though, in times like these, you can replace &#8220;King County&#8221; with your own town/county/state).  We wanted to bring it to the forefront of people&#8217;s minds and get them talking about the difficulties that come with living on a tight budget and how we can change that as a community.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s impossible to say that, after these five days, you&#8217;ll know what it&#8217;s like to live in poverty or on food stamps.  Instead, we&#8217;re trying to get people to empathize.  What kind of lifestyle changes did you have to make on such a tight budget?  Were you no longer able to get coffee?  Could you not catch dinner with friends?  </p>
<p>Obviously, food bloggers and the like have the advantage of time and skill in order to prepare great meals on the $7/day.  We wanted them to have fun and be creative about it.</p>
<p>As long as the end result is people thinking about hunger, recognizing how much of a problem it is, we are happy with that.</p>
<p>It seems like Lara is doing that.  Also, she&#8217;s making this challenge-taker very hungry! (I ate pasta 2 nights in a row.. I can&#8217;t cook, lol)</p>
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